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Parliament is one of the fundamental institution of democracy. But the congressmen of different parties always have a serious differences in . This causes political disorder.
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Felipe Alvarez @lfalvarez
thank for having me here and for what you do. we appreciate the work that you do.
i work for a org in sandiago called ciudadano inteligente.org
today i talk about two things. the first is a research and the second is the idea base on this research.
利用科技拉近政府與人民的距離，特別是在拉丁美洲，金錢跟政治是個顯見的問題。這樣會導致政治人物是貪汙腐敗的。而這些倡議會帶來改變。以下分享我們的研究：
2011年時，透過國會議員的資產的資訊公布；在智利，雖然有明文規定，但沒有人去查驗是否真實。我們因此作了一些研究調查，看他們如何投票？投票人與得票人是否有關係？我們利用資訊科技做出配對，看各自議員之間有沒有存在利益衝突。
參考網址：app.inspectoreintereses.cl
context
the relationship bet mony and politics in latin amer.
citizens believe that politicians are corrupted
we believe technology can change
The Study
in chili these is a law that congressmen should disclose their assets
the study researched congressmen assets and the bill they passed.
The match
to see if there is a possible conflict of interests.
The application
http://www.inspectordeintereses.cl/
this is just a research, there isn’t application running or open data or anything(?)
Impact
the impact on public media is that some politicians update their declaration of assets
and e almost got sued by one of the parties but nothing happened in the end because they don’t have anything concrete
it triggered several campaigns that aimed to push regulation the relation between money and politics.
Ley de Lobby
在智利，如果你要參選，其實不用公開自己的政治獻金何來。藉由我們組織的運作，我們開始要求候選人公開，好讓我們明白他們後續的行為。
我我們後續期待拉攏更多拉丁美洲的團體。基本概念大抵如下：研究loose ends, 跟actions的關係。這雖然並非絕對性的事情，但是需要進一步的調查：有哪些潛在利益沒有被調查出來？
（來自美國基金會的提問者：我們有在進行類似的工作。）
（Q:如何確保資訊來源正確？A:相關的運動人事到國會、手動資料處理...）
We ask politicians who gives you the money for your campaign.
Future of Interests Inspector
we want to cerate a simpler but extensible application in different contexts in latin amer.
we want to create a loose end(?) and an action(?)
a loose end could be a close friend
an action may be a vote(?)
to see if there is a possible conflict of interests.
I’ve got a question for you. Does it make sense in your context? What do you think?
A: Yeah. We have a tool called Influence explore. I think it definitely work on the same direction.
Questions?
Q: How did you collect the data and make sure it is correct?
A: We want to collect data the way we find it. We could create scrappers or manually because in latin amer you don’t have much open data. So we want to have options or any options that is helpful.
Q: How do you determine if there is a conflict of interests once you get all the data?
A: What we did we created a category of bills and category of assets. If there is a match there might be a conflict in interests(?)
Basically we want to create categories on both sides and leave it open for others to create other tools like complex algorithms
瞿海源（主持人）：台灣有相關法規，要政治人物公開資產。我們有數千筆資料，但是有很多人還是會隱藏，資產這麼多，登記的卻寥寥無幾，怎麼辦？
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that’s why we created the concept of a loose end. loose ends are not restricted to congressmen’s own assets only, like a congressmen’s wife or relatives create a loose ends.
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Matthew Rumsey
Thank you for having me.
I work on federal policy. SF is a nonpartisan nonprofit. I want to emphasis on the nonpartisan part. We work with all politicians and we criticize all politicians if they do things we disagree.
we believe everyone have access to gov info and have a voice in gov process. And we try to achive this by using technology and create tools.
We make sure that gov data is open, we create data to help gov and make sure these are open, we make sure our tools are open.
sunlight is broken into several pieces. we have a reporting group that have 5-6 journalists.
they try to report on money and politics, do research to report on how money are going into our politics.
the biggest groups in our fundation is the lab group.
labs are important to engage people to understand how gov works.
這些工具有些是立法資訊、有些是跟金錢和政治有關。這些議員打算作什麼？人民也可以借此知道美國的法規訂製和運作。我們的工作就是讓這些成員，可以對政府的運作更熟悉、更簡化。
lab團隊中，主要是作取得數據的工作。幸運的是，我們跟政府和國會議員的關係還不錯。
政策團隊中則分成三個部分：聯邦團隊、地方（各州）團隊、國際團隊。
so we can usually have the data we want.
but sometimes we also have to scrap the data.
Local Open Data
International team is focus on working with org in the world.
the team is working on larger projects like parliament transparency.
http://www.openingparliament.org/
the money, politics and transparency project.
tools and projects
USAspending.gov
how we are able to identify problems, work with gov the find a solution and make changes.
what companies are getting contracted?
clearspending project
a lot of data on usaspending.gov is not really useful, outdated, incomplete. they found huge problems.
what’s the solution?
after 2008 gov put lots of money recovery
recovery.gov they did very successful job on tracking those money
this sort of put a mandate on gov that you need to disclose several things. to let people know where the money is going
今天要來分享我們組織如何順利的將政府資訊公開。
http://sunlightfoundation.com/
案例一：
usapending.gov 這個網站中有很多資訊其實不那麼有用，不是太晚更新就是不準確、要不就是訊息遺失。
我們藉由clearspending的企劃，作數據的檢視。透過這些網站追蹤資金的流向，然後跟政府成員和ngo合作，我們試著提出「數據法」，藉以追查資金的應用需要被呈報，讓一般市民可以了解。如此一來，這個政治獻金就會被公開，借此更了解政府資金的運作。
我們建立了一些有用的工具，例如scout的這網站，可以追蹤你有興趣的法案，之後有任何更新，你就會收到e－mail。對於民眾有興趣的議題，可以即時掌握。未來我們也會加入各州的訊息，讓民眾可以即時掌握... 民眾可以在上面評論，這同時也是一個資訊平台。
scout後來也發展出opencongress, 藉此可以監督各個議員的作為，甚至跟個議員取得聯繫。
openstates.org大概是目前最受歡迎的工具了吧！大家可以看到聯邦政府到底在做什麼。你可以在這邊知道，有誰在政府中代表你發聲，只要輸入地址就可以了。這些代表你的人，他正在研究什麼法案、目前有什麼作為。我們有很多志工協助發展這些工具。
scout.sunlightfoundation.com
using parliamentary info. a tracking tool. if you are interested in a topic that the parliament is discussing you can start an alert and have the info delivered to your mailbox.
it now includes more things: congress, after congress (regulatory activity), state legistation
a lot of really controversial rules are get passed in state gov(?)
opencongress.org
let you track your congressmen to know what they are doing.
a feature is to make e-mailing to your congressment easier.
openstates.org
probably our most popular tool now. what’s happening in their state (not limited to DC)
who’s the closest person (in gov) to your? who’s the representatives in your area? what legislation are they passing?
a lot of volunteers spent a lot of their free time to build this tools, they built scraper to get data that are usually closed
influenceexplorer.com
tries to breakdown who’s influencing them? how are they influencing them? what are the breakpoints?
we try to make the data public and understandable and let the reader make the judgements. so this is one of the most popular tools among journalists.
opensecrets.org
our lab team does not just use technology, they build data, tools for others to use.
sunlight data services
there are 2 billion hits on this API which we are really proud of.
最後我要講的是influenceexplorer.com
在這裡，我們試圖呈現政治人物的利益節點，你只要輸入政治人物的名字，你可以知道他們的金錢來源與流向。
接下來要分享的是我們的團隊。我們不只是處理科技的部分，我們還有不少app和介面，讓其中的資料串得以開放，甚至你也可以自行開發工具，來使用這些資料串。讓大家可以掌握政府到底受到哪些影響。
最後我要說一個有點嚴肅、但是很歡樂的工具。
politwoops是一個追蹤政治人物twitter的工具，當他們發言之後，即便刪除，還是能藉由這個app將之保留。雖然不那麼具有新聞價值啦！但是會讓大家掌握這些政治人物的動態，甚至有些政治人物也會因此刻意刪文（例如打錯字）...
a little bit fun
politwoops that tracks politician tweets and when they delete tweets we catch that
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來自南韓。是一個數據的開發者。
不知道anymore so I will talk in English.
We want to talk about how we can collaborate possible between Taiwan an Korea or possible broader.
Team POPONG
~10 members
How it all started
Politics in South Korea
there is a national "hatred" for politics. the reason is politics is very corrupted in the past. people get arrested or even killed because they talk freely in 80-90s. families and parents objected in the beginning when we say we are making political service
we vote for national assembly each 4yrs, for presidents each 5yrs. 300 members in national assembly. vote rate is low.
What’s the problem
What we need is a healthy vote-monitor loop.
citizens need get more engaged for politics
we heard later on from national assembly member that this is because the website was not made for the people in the first place but for the members. that’s why it is so hard to use.
Three strategies
1 .Improve existing tools
Politics in Korea
2. Deliver to people
one of the ideas we actually implemented later is my page in politics for people to get info about bills that really affected them.
希望開放API給大家下載使用，大家可以再去做自己的APP，加上自己的觀點。但目前使用的人還不多
我覺得我們還蠻中立，沒有黨派色彩；當然還是有人認為我們是偏向某個黨派。
3 Open the Communication
I think if we are going to have direct democracy with help from technology that would be very good and that may happen, but if we cannot have that I think the alternatives is to make this communication very effective.
韓國國會議員跟民眾的溝通管道還不多
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柳林瑋：
每年立法院會花很多預算來維護IVOD，但是IVOD（立法院議事轉播網際網路多媒體隨選視訊(ivod)系統）經常黑畫面，很多NGO來注意這個問題，想辦法解決，但是立法院主張這些影像是有智慧財產權的，因此沃草來做這些公開的工作。
沃草目前成立了一年，關於國會無雙，我們還有很長遠的路要走
高村長-高嘉良：
我們有個友站在UK，也是全世界第一個g0v類型組織，但是台灣和UK的法律體系很不相同，所以挑戰也不一樣。
g0v的計畫中，常常在揭露....（對不起收信沒聽清楚），例如政府有很多紀錄資料數據都沒有公開或是消失，台灣地方政府尤其是苗栗，這樣的問題特別嚴重。
我們專注於資訊公開，但是政府的資訊公開常常很迂迴，所以我們用淺顯易懂的方式，告訴大家這些資訊的意義。
在德國...
Felipe
在智利我們有個網站叫做....意思是"開放國會.co"→總之應該是指Fundación Ciudadano Inteligente
政府是最不想要公開資料的組織，我們的組織花了很多努力來致力於...，我想要強調一點，我們跟國會與國會議員的關係非常好，我們是用一種鼓勵的方式讓他們願意公開出來，而不是逼迫。
政府如果不想要公開，你是很難取得真正的資料。
所以我們的位置是很重要的，我們要跟政府溝通開放的重要與好處，這是公民的需求。
我們可能有工具了，現在我們應該去努力「建立得到資訊的管道」。
地方政府不是不給資訊，而是根本沒有資訊；開會根本沒有紀錄；所以我覺得教育地方政府也很重要，告訴他們永續發展的重要性。
Lucy Park
我們嘗試要成為市民與政府之間的橋樑，我做的這些努力，得到了不少媒體的鎂光燈。但是我認為只有
Q：
Felipe Álvarez：
我覺得有個關鍵─去舉一個成功的案例；
例如說有個議員在使用我們的工具，我們去宣傳，這樣就會有別的議員可能也會想要跟進。
Q:how do you come up with a good idea? how to prioritize?
Sunlight Foundation has operated for 7 yrs and in the beginning I think our strategy is more like what my boss used to say throw-the-spaghetti-to-the-wall strategy. We were just like, you get an idea, you just go build it. But now we are having more strategic thinking.
【打造新政治！開放政府與參與式民主QA PARTY！】
時間：2014年11月10日19:30－22:00
地點：CLBC大安本館（台北市大安區復興南路一段293號4F）
主持：吳銘軒（綠黨中執委）
與談：
Matthew Rumsey (Sunlight Foundation，美國陽光基金會)
Felipe Álvarez (Fundación Ciudadano Inteligente，智利智慧公民基金會)
Gregory Engels (德國海盜黨)
＊本場次備有口譯
主辦單位：綠黨 x 公民組合 x 經濟民主連合
Open Government QA Party!
Date/Time: 2014/11/10 Monday 19:30 - 22:00
Location: CLBC Da-An
Address: 3F-1, 293 Fuxing South Road Section 1, Taipei, TAIWAN 10665 (Guide http://clbc.tw/ourlocations/location/)
Join the event: http://goo.gl/HAvhvi
Host: A-Duan (Green Party Taiwan)
Speakers:
Matthew Rumsey (Sunlight Foundation)
Felipe Álvarez (Fundación Ciudadano Inteligente)
Gregory Engels (Germany Parate Party)